Press Briefing by Permanent Representative Vassily Nebenzia on the Situation in the Town of Bucha (Kiev Region) and Related Matters Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations
Vassily Nebenzia: These are unprecedented times, as you know. What
is also unprecedented is what happened yesterday [April 3] and earlier
today. It was unprecedented, unbelievable, and unthinkable. We were
denied a Security Council meeting that we requested today from the
British Presidency. During my time here, I had emergency meetings of
the Security Council on many issues that happened on weekends, on U.S.
holidays, etc, and we never objected. What happened is something
unbelievable and unprecedented in the history of the United Nations.
That is a fact.
I heard today's press conference by Ambassador
Barbara Woodward. I heard questions that she was asked, and I heard
answers that she gave. Frankly, some of the answers she was just not
able to give. Before we have a meeting tomorrow, I would like to tell
you of a few things which it is very important to get through to you --
press and media. It is about what has happened recently and is
happening now around Kiev.
On April 4 the Kiev regime with an
active support from its Western sponsors started to promote in Western
mass media fake news about alleged "atrocities" of the Russian military
forces in the town of Bucha (a suburb of Kiev) in Ukraine.
From
the very beginning it has been clear that this is nothing else but yet
another staged provocation aimed at discrediting and dehumanizing of
the Russian military and leveling political pressure on Russia. Not
many of you know about the Russian military, but I assure you that
Russian military is nothing that it is being accused of, in particular
what regards "cruel atrocities" against civil population. It is not the
case. It never was, and will never be.
We have factual evidence
that proves this point. We intended to present it to the Security
Council as soon as possible so that the international community is not
misled by the false narrative promoted by Kiev and its Western sponsors.
To
this end, the Russian Federation requested a Security Council meeting
to be convened at 3:00 pm New York Time today on April 4 to discuss
this heinous provocation by the Kiev regime.
I would like to
emphasize that we did it as early as on 2:51 pm on Sunday, full 24
hours before the requested meeting, so the UK claims that we asked for
a meeting "too late" are misinformation.
Our efforts have been
met with the fierce opposition of the UK Presidency with the support of
other Western delegations, namely the U.S., France, Ireland, Norway and
Albania.
They tried to invent an invalid and lame pretext not to
convene this meeting on Monday insisting that it should be postponed to
Tuesday.
The UK Ambassador keeps claiming, and you could hear
that at her press conference earlier today, that they wanted to have a
more "informed" meeting with the UN Secretariat as a briefer. This is a
lie. We have never objected to having a briefer on Monday, and it is
the obligation of the Presidency to arrange for that. We did not
request a briefer from our side. During the Russian Presidency, we duly
arranged for such meetings at the request of the Western delegations,
in the middle of the day or night, regardless of the complex
geopolitical context and constant provocations vis-à-vis our
country.
I would like to stress: the UK Presidency openly
rejected our request to convene a meeting on April 4. And they did it
twice. Since the situation around Bucha kept evolving overnight, today
we requested an urgent Council meeting at 3:00 pm.
However, the
Presidency took the liberty to qualify that there is no reason to
convey an emergency meeting. As they put it, the UK does not believe
that the situation in Bucha is calling for immediate attention of the
Security Council.
This is a unilateral assertion of the UK
Presidency, not a decision of the Council members. You can see clearly
now what a "rules-based order" promoted by the UK and other Western
countries means in real life. It means them imposing rules that are
comfortable to them with total disregard for the international law and
the established UNSC rules of procedure.
This behaviour is very
illustrative and reveals true attitude of the West to the Ukrainian
people. While blocking the discussion on Bucha, where we see a
clear-cut provocation in classical Goebbels's style, risking to have
serious implications for the international peace and security, the
Western delegations rushed to convene a Security Council meeting on the
education for girls in Afghanistan some time ago. You can see what
their real priorities are.
The reason why the Western
delegations do this is very simple. It would not benefit Western cause
if the Security Council meeting was convened by Russia, because this
would shake the anti-Russian narrative that they are comfortably
promoting. The Western delegations prefer to "blend in" the situation
in Bucha with the discussion of the humanitarian situation at the
meeting they convene tomorrow, to shift the focus away from the staged
provocation by the Kiev regime. To this end, the UK by its own
discretion added our agenda item to tomorrow's briefing. We have never
approved that. It is yet another illustration of their behaviour.
I
would like to recall Rule 2 of the Provisional rules of Procedure of
the Security Council. It is explicit that the Presidency should call
for a meeting at the request of any member of the Security Council.
What
we see now is a shameful and unprecedented abuse by the UK of the
President's prerogatives. At the same time, this is a demonstration of
weakness showing that the Western delegations had to resort to this
maneuvering to shut Russia's voice. It only proves the point that
Western delegations care neither about the real situation in Bucha, nor
about the Council authority.
Abusive, condescendent,
colonialistic line of the UK Presidency is undermining the very
foundations of the UN, and we will yet have to assess the implications.
The
Presidency is entrusted by the Charter to lead the Security Council.
The UK failed to lead. It is a disgrace for the British diplomacy and
an undeniable stain on its reputation.
Given negligence of the
UK Presidency, we decided to convene this press conference to shed
light on the Western-backed provocation of the Kiev regime in Bucha.
I would like to present to you the real facts about Bucha.
During
the time that the town has been under the control of the Russian armed
forces, not a single local resident has suffered from any violent
action.
For as long as the town was under the control of the
Russian armed forces locals were moving freely around the town and
using cellular phones. So they could post on social media any photo and
video footage of any theoretical "harassment" if this were the case.
However, that did not happen.
Let me address the developments in chronological order.
On
March 30, following another round of talks in Ankara, Russian Ministry
of Defense announced the withdrawal of forces from a number of regions,
including Bucha.
That fact was confirmed the next day by the
mayor of Bucha. In his video of March 31 Anatoly Fedoruk presented the
withdrawal of Russian forces as a victory of Ukrainian Army.
Interestingly, he had not mentioned any mass atrocities, dead bodies,
killings, graves or anything like that. It is hard to imagine that a
city mayor can "forget" to address such a devastating scenario.
Let
me show you the video posted by Mr. Fedoruk. As you will see, he looks
happy and smiling. It is hard to imagine that he is acting like this
against the backdrop of "massacre" in the streets. That's in Ukrainian,
but as I said, he is very happy that Russian troops withdrew, which he
regards as a great victory of the Ukrainian army. He makes no
mentioning of any atrocities in the city.
This video was posted
on "Ukraine 24" channel on April 1. I would like to stress - nothing
about "atrocities" was revealed on April 1.
Let me also show a
photo of Zhan Belenyuk, a deputy of the Ukrainian parliament, who,
according to his reports in social media, visited Bucha after regaining
control by the Ukrainian government. As you can see, he is also
smiling. He is joyful. In his reports he mentions no dead bodies. Not a
single reference to "atrocities."
On April 2 the National Guard
of Ukraine posted on official resources a video from Bucha. Let me show
you the footage. The video captures members of Ukrainian armed forces
entering Bucha. The footage shows no dead bodies in the streets. The
Ukrainian military interviewed several people in different locations
across the town. None of them said a word about any "massacre" or mass
killings. Camera also captures background behind these people, with no
dead bodies in sight.
To sum it up, there are no reports of
atrocities which are accredited to the Russian military in Bucha, which
happened before the Ukrainian army took control of the town. Four days
after the Russian military left the city of Bucha there was not a
single sign of any "atrocities." I repeat -- not a single reference to
it, anywhere.
The infamous video depicting bodies on the city
roads only appeared on April 3. It is full of discrepancies and blatant
lies. According to its authors, the bodies were lying on the streets
for at least four days by the time the video was filmed. However, the
bodies are not stiffened. How is that possible? It is against the law
of biology. The bodies do not have signs of decomposition known to
forensic experts, including cadaver stains. The wounds contain no blood.
Another point illustrating that this video is fake.
The
Ukrainian forces use either blue or yellow armlets or stripes. Because
members of Ukrainian militia do not always wear military uniforms,
local civilians in Bucha wore white stripes on their upper arms when
the Russian forces were stationed in Bucha. That was done to prevent
misidentification of civilians from members of militia. When the
Ukrainian forces entered the town, they fired at the people with white
stripes, killing the civilians. There is a video showing a conversation
between members of Ukrainian units. It was published in social media by
the so-called "territorial defense" — a radical nationalist
fighting group. One of the radicals asks if he can shoot at the people
without blue stripes. The other confirms that this is permissible.
Russian speakers know that, but let me translate for the rest of you:
Question behind the scene — "There are folks without blue bands, can I shoot them?"
Answer: "Of course."
I
hope the evidence we demonstrated today leaves you with no illusion
that the video circulated by the Kiev regime is a crude forgery. It
does not stand any scrutiny. However, some Western leaders, for example
German Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz, French President Emmanuel
Macron, and of course British Foreign Minister Liz Truss have already
lined up to promote this false narrative.
What happened in Bucha
is exactly a false flag attack by the Kiev regime and its Western
sponsors. The possible goal of this provocation is horrifying and
brings back the nightmares of the Nazi crimes during the Second World
War.
Vladimir Zelensky, once he arrived in Bucha, hinted that
this "incident" justifies any "uncivilized response." By this basically
he confirmed that the Kiev regime considers genocide as a method of
warfare. Now the nationalists have a pretext to commit a real massacre
of innocent Ukrainian people executing them as "traitors." We want the
world to stay alert and we call on the Council not to let this horrific
cleansing to happen.
To conclude I would like to reiterate that
the Russian military forces act in strict compliance with international
humanitarian law and do not target civilians and civilian objects. If
we were pursuing aggressive goals, like those of the U.S.-led coalition
in Iraq, the scale of losses and devastation would be worse by digits.
Like in Raqqa and Mosul that were bombed by the U.S. to ashes, killing
thousands of civilians, including women and children, whose bodies were
left unburied for weeks and even months.
You will hear more from
me tomorrow, because more information is coming. I think that the truth
about what happened in Bucha will reveal itself very soon.
Q:
A Security Council meeting did not take place because Great Britain
said no. The United States intends to pursue Russia's suspension from
the UN Human Rights Council. Do you think these actions can undermine
the negotiations efforts for a humanitarian ceasefire? What are the
next steps you are planning here at the UN?
A:
Of course, Human Rights Council is not our piece of cake, so to say. We
are in another format. But I think that this is again unbelievable what
the West and the rest are trying to do with Russia today, trying to
exclude it from whatever multilateral forums we have in the world.
So
in response to what you are saying, I think yes they can. This is,
again, unprecedented. And this will not facilitate, encourage or be
helpful for what is happening at Russian-Ukrainian peace talks.
Q:
On the other side, the Ukrainians have presented footage of people who
have said that their loved ones have been killed by Russian troops
— civilians not doing anything. As for the footage that's been
shown. We've seen a little bit that you've shown, but do you consider
that the statements of these women and family members who've watched
their own loved ones being killed by Russian troops are fake?
A:
This is a warfare. And in warfare, anything happens. You cannot exclude
that civilians may die. That is a sad fact of life. But the footage
that we are being presented with, in particular in Bucha, of which I
spoke, does not give us any doubt that it was staged. We will present
more evidence on that tomorrow when we speak in the Security Council.
Q:
I'd like to ask you one follow-up question. Ukrainian Prosecutor
General Irina Venedictova today told Ukrainian television that the
situation in a town called Borodyanka may be worse than Bucha in terms
of people who have been found killed. That town was also occupied by
Russian forces until recently. Do you know anything about that?
A: Frankly, no. I just hear from you as you speak.
Q:
My question is about Bucha. There are pictures. There's eyewitness
evidence. What are you saying about how this happened? And you did show
us pictures of two pregnant women who were fake photos, and we saw one
of them give birth and we saw the other one die. Do you believe that
the pictures and the story you're getting right now and telling us are
true about Bucha?
A: I
just saw a footage today on the Russian television of the lady that
gave birth in Mariupol. She admitted that it had been a fake. She's an
Ukrainian blogger named Mariana. She admitted that it was a fake, that
she was made to make that footage.
Now, to what you see in the
streets of Bucha. The corpses had never existed before the departure of
Russian troops, and then suddenly appeared in the streets, lying on the
road one by one, right and left. If you look carefully, you will see
that some of them are moving. Some of them are showing signs of life.
You cannot escape from an understanding that this is staged, that it is
a fake and a provocation. Because, as you all know, besides the
warfare, we have a raging information war. And we have evidence that it
was premeditated and arranged by the Ukrainian information warfare
machine.
Q: Therefore, you're blaming the Ukrainians for actually putting these bodies there?
A: One
thing you cannot deny is that Ukrainians are using people as a human
shield when they hide behind them in residential buildings, which they
use to call fire on themselves.
Q: The second woman who was pregnant, by the way, did die.
A: If that is the case, I'm sorry for her. I really am. You may believe me.
Q:
But part of the question is then the bigger picture. Martin Griffith
just came from Moscow. Is there any possibility of a ceasefire?
A:
And the question is, from which hands she died. They claimed that it
was a Russian airstrike, while the evidence shows that the building had
not had an air strike, but rather an explosion.
On Martin
Griffiths and the resolution. We offered a resolution last week, which
they rejected. They said no because "Russia as an aggressor" cannot
offer anything. We are trying to get people out of cities and provide
them with free evacuation, which they also deny. They say "no,
Ukrainians can only leave to the West, they cannot live to Russia, they
have no right to do so." They say so despite the fact that half a
million Ukrainians are already in Russia. And believe me, there is no
xenophobia to Ukrainians in Russia. There has never been any, despite
what is happening with Russians around the globe today. I'm grateful to
the Americans that they are not up to that. But look at what is
happening in Europe, at how they treat Russians only because they have
Russian passports. That is incredible. That is unbelievable. I leave
aside the issue of sanctions, which are beyond any understanding, but
the way they are treating Russians in Europe is something that goes
beyond any understanding.
Q:
Would Russia, for example, welcome an independent investigation? You
talk about the misinformation wars, the fog of war. It's difficult to
understand who's giving you facts and who's not. Right. So would you
agree to an independent mechanism to investigate the atrocities that we
both can agree are happening in Ukraine? And then a second part, what
is so egregious about the 24 hours delay? To help us understand, this
meeting that you requested for today is happening tomorrow. So what is
so outrageous about this delay?
A:
The question is who is doing the so-called independent investigation.
We've seen lots of independent investigations which were not
independent at all because they were politically motivated, biased, etc.
As
for the meeting, their aim and the idea is absolutely clear. They do
not want to let us present our views, and want to go ahead with their
own interpretation of the situation. But by tomorrow many things may
come to surface which they wouldn't like to hear. So perhaps they lost
time when they did not have this meeting today and postponed it until
tomorrow.
Not just in my memory here, but in the procedure,
tradition, and rules of the Security Council, I cannot recall a case
when the Presidency would deny a country a meeting whenever it wants
to. If that's an emergency meeting, the Council should meet in 3 hours
after the announcement. I've been in this situation many times over
myself.
I listened to the briefing today and I heard the
question that you asked to [Ambassador] Barbara [Woodward]. She never
answered to it. I mean we've been accused of atrocities, we are being
accused of not observing the rules of warfare, etc, but what did she
answer when you asked her about Raqqa and Mosul? She just evaded. She
went sideways. Anyway, let's see what happens tomorrow. Tomorrow you
will hear more from us. I promise that I will be even more factual than
today.
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